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Cat Hatter posted:Put me down for team "Flippers and Landlords buy the same garbage" Flippers, landlords, and bottom-line contractors, but yes this.
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Nitrox posted:This is formaldehyde enriched laminate that Lumber Liquidators were blowing out for $0.29/foot in order to remain in business after insane lawsuits. It is truly the shittiest and the cheapest flooring money could buy, even before you think of formaldehyde poisoning. Contractors were quoting $1.50/foot installed, and every slumlord jumped on that deal. I bought and resold several pallets of this garbage, and it moved fast enough to never trickle up to actual homeowners. I just wrote today to replace an entire downstairs of this crap. Owner bought it after it was flipped in 2018. He was so happy to be rid of it, it would bubble & lift at the slightest hint of moisture. moist turtleneck posted:Also I'm pretty sure Pergo made a design that was exactly like that, something oak I remember when Pergo started selling in the US, because we had a flooring rep/tech come and give a presentation to our claims office when I was at Prudential in 1996. Initially it was warranteed against water damage from pooled water for 45-minutes. (The real, old Pergo - one of the very first floating floors - was tough as hell because it was designed for the European/Scandinavian/UK market, where when you moved out of your apartment odds were you took the appliances, cabinets, and flooring with you, and trimmed or added at your next lease.) Not sure what happened, but I suspect they were lured by the siren song of the US market - we don't do that here - and started cutting corners because over the course of the next decad, that warranty withered away as the exposure times got shorter & shorter.
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That isn't crappy construction. It's jizzy construction.
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Jizzy Construction: The Four Penii of The Cumpocalypse
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PainterofCrap posted:(The real, old Pergo - one of the very first floating floors - was tough as hell because it was designed for the European/Scandinavian/UK market, where when you moved out of your apartment odds were you took the appliances, cabinets, and flooring with you, and trimmed or added at your next lease.) I have genuinely NEVER heard of anyone taking their flooring with them here. Appliances, yes, cabinets, sometimes, flooring... what the hell.
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kid sinister posted:That isn't crappy construction. It's jizzy construction. Cumstruction
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Dillbag posted:Cumstruction Fappy cumstruction
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PurpleXVI posted:I have genuinely NEVER heard of anyone taking their flooring with them here. Appliances, yes, cabinets, sometimes, flooring... what the hell.
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Nitrox posted:There are rental apartments or houses in the US, where appliances aren't included. In my experience, it's usually absentee landlords who just don't want the responsibility of repair and replacement.
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Zereth posted:They usually supply floors though. Apartment Listing Cagey About Whether Unit Has Floor
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Floors? In this economy?
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PurpleXVI posted:I have genuinely NEVER heard of anyone taking their flooring with them here. Appliances, yes, cabinets, sometimes, flooring... what the hell. In Finland at least, for rental apartments the fridge/freezer combo is standard equipment. Other kitchen appliances like microwave you bring yourself. Any laundry machine is usually the tenant's own, but in apartment buildings there may be one or two shared laundry machines in the basement. Cupboards are made to measure and belong to the apartment. The floor however is whatever you can scrape together. I prefer styrofoam because it is warm, easy to cut into shape and can be found in landfills for free.
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I guess my response is that floors are also made to measure for the space?
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Typically in us rentals if you try to take the floorboards with you when you leave you're not getting your damage deposit back, is "floor" european for a rug
A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 23:42 on May 18, 2024 |
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:Typically in us rentals if you try to take the floorboards with you when you leave you're not getting your damage deposit back, I assume here the "floor" is some kind of mat over the actual floor like a rug or something? Do they not have rugs in finland I mean yeah it's finland not rugland. DUH
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:When it's pretty darn windy (note the portaloo blowing over) and you skimped on the diagonal bracing a little
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Saw that on Reddit, each floor collapsing one after the other in exactly the same way is comic perfection
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The actual structural floor stays in place, but since that's usually unfinished, rough concrete, whatever you put on top of that like laminate or carpet not so much. Many places it states explicitly in the lease that you have to remove it when you move out. At least, that's what I've heard from Dutch acquaintances.
Just Winging It fucked around with this message at 00:37 on May 19, 2024 |
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are we talking about rentals or the apartments you own kinda thing?
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I need to change my dining room light fixture. Breaker labeled dining room? Nope. General lighting? Nope. Kitchen? Nope. Okay, well the switch is on the same panel as the hall light switch, so maybe that one? Nope. Oh of course it's on the same one as the 2nd and 3rd bedrooms. That makes sense.
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# ? May 19, 2024 17:14 |
Klein Tools ET310 AC Circuit Breaker Finder https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QNMCVWP Although I guess that specific one only helps for outlets. So add on one of those light bulb socket outlet adapter things, which I will not link on account of them probably being sketchy in general.
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Bad Munki posted:Klein Tools ET310 AC Circuit Breaker Finder Nope, they're great. I have the breaker finder and accessory set in their own lil tool bag in the garage and they're one of my most used tools.
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poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:Nope, they're great. I have the breaker finder and accessory set in their own lil tool bag in the garage and they're one of my most used tools. Can confirm. I bought one in a bundle and although I haven't used it a lot it's still very nice to have and it works.
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Bad Munki posted:Klein Tools ET310 AC Circuit Breaker Finder
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Flipperwaldt posted:I thought that was going to work by just causing a controlled short or something I mean, that also works. My dad has a store brand breaker finder from the 90s and even that thing works great.
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Flipperwaldt posted:I thought that was going to work by just causing a controlled short or something Nope, they’re awesome and save a TON of time and you can solo locate breakers without cycling power to anything. Love it. Good to know the socket adapters aren’t inherently evil, too.
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So the one end hums an electrical song into the wire and the other end can sense the disturbance through the ether when close enough, right.
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Yeah, the song has lyrics, it’s a duet: Scanner: “Was that it??” Plug: “What?” Scanner: “WAS THAT IT?” Plug: “NO” Scanner: “WHAT??” Plug: “NO!!!” The design is very human.
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Flipperwaldt posted:So the one end hums an electrical song into the wire and the other end can sense the disturbance through the ether when close enough, right. Basically. I know the old knockoff one I've used has a sensitivity wheel that you adjust until it only beeps at one breaker. Didn't know if the new ones are self adjusting somehow.
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# ? May 19, 2024 18:20 |
They are: the first step is to run it over the entire panel, that calibrates it, then the second pass reliably locates. Although in my experience it nails it during the first pass anyhow.
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Cat Hatter posted:Basically. I know the old knockoff one I've used has a sensitivity wheel that you adjust until it only beeps at one breaker. Didn't know if the new ones are self adjusting somehow. The Klein is self-adjusting. You plug in the one end, then turn on the wand and run it over the whole panel, ignoring any noises. Then you go breaker by breaker and it only chirps at the right one. Never had it fail.
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Neat! I really don't need one though...right this second. Even if the transmitter is also a three-light-tester with GFCI button so I'd have a spare. I do like that the model showing it off has liver spots on their hands. Shows they know their audience.
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Flipperwaldt posted:So the one end hums an electrical song into the wire and the other end can sense the disturbance through the ether when close enough, right. FWIW my campus radio station had a carrier-wave emitter, built in the 60s. In addition to broadcasting over the air at 530kH through a 4-watt (actually 5K, but it barely reached a mile in the Laurel Highlands of PA), it sent a signal through the electrical wiring, so you could pull a pretty good signal through a plugged-in radio. That is, until someone turned on a hair dryer.
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Just like those wall warts that send internet through the wires (hams HATE this)
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Bad Munki posted:Klein Tools ET310 AC Circuit Breaker Finder One of my tool marking clients brought me one of these to mark with my laser, and I've been kinda low-key lusting after it ever since, I had no idea it was so affordable.
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BMan posted:Just like those wall warts that send internet through the wires (hams HATE this)
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Bad Munki posted:Klein Tools ET310 AC Circuit Breaker Finder Holy poo poo. I had no idea that existed.
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