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Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe

bird food bathtub posted:

What the gently caress even is reality anymore? I don't know. I guess all that's left is to laugh at this insane asylum we live in, so here, have some lols from another thread.

Lmao

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Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Would it be accurate to say a huge reason pot isn’t legal yet is lobbying from industries that would be negatively impacted, like why they still make pennies? In WA a few years back when there was voting on letting grocery stores sell liquor there were tv ads from Very Concerned Firefighters about easier access for kids, but for the actual spending it was nearly 100% Costco on one side & the other was beer companies as I guess liquor on the shelves hurts their sales.

It was my understanding that the biggest opponent to legal cannabis came from the cotton industry, who didn't give any actual fucks about its use as a drug, but about industrial hemp cutting into their market.

Lord Awkward
Feb 16, 2012

bird food bathtub posted:

What the gently caress even is reality anymore? I don't know. I guess all that's left is to laugh at this insane asylum we live in, so here, have some lols from another thread.

kazil posted:

TOO MANY TRUMP LOLS TODAY


AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Madurai posted:

It was my understanding that the biggest opponent to legal cannabis came from the cotton industry, who didn't give any actual fucks about its use as a drug, but about industrial hemp cutting into their market.

Public disclosures on lobbying and candidate contributions seems to point more at industries making other painkillers (alcohol and pharma) and law enforcement (police unions and private prisons).

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


The thing is, before weed was legal anywhere, the pharma, alcohol, and tobacco industries could out spend the weed industry with ease in regards to lobbying.

Once that dam cracked in California, Colorado, and Nevada? It literally went from "we can't come close to matching that." to "Anheisuer Busch offered you how much? Yeah we can double that."

Federal legalization will happen, it's only a question of when not if at this point.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011



Lol

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it


"My beautiful blue eyes". And here I was thinking I was being hyperbolic when I suggested he spanked it to himself.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Public disclosures on lobbying and candidate contributions seems to point more at industries making other painkillers (alcohol and pharma) and law enforcement (police unions and private prisons).

I'd like to look at that, do you have a link?

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Madurai posted:

It was my understanding that the biggest opponent to legal cannabis came from the cotton industry, who didn't give any actual fucks about its use as a drug, but about industrial hemp cutting into their market.

The one good thing that Mitch McConnell did was push through all the hemp stuff 10 years ago. Cotton cannot profitably be grown in Kentucky. Hemp however is a reasonable enough replacement for tobacco as a cash crop.

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

Thats every thing mcconnel has ever done. Push for something to help kentucky while oppossing it to his last breath for the rest of the country. Sometimes strokes hit the right rear end in a top hat

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009
Speaking as a Kentuckian, he didn't do anything good for Kentucky that didn't specifically enrich him or his family more either

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Soul Dentist posted:

Speaking as a Kentuckian, he didn't do anything good for Kentucky that didn't specifically enrich him or his family more either

IIRC he earmarked a major Ohio river project into one of the government shutdown agreements that only extremely indirectly helps his in-laws’ shipping business.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

Hannibal Rex posted:

The entire world has to deal with the consequences of your election, and we don't get a vote. So those of you who can vote better make drat sure you do.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Hannibal Rex posted:



The entire world has to deal with the consequences of your election, and we don't get a vote. So those of you who can vote better make drat sure you do.

got it. i know who to vote for now :smugdon:

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Appropos to last page's election discussion and this being raw since we spent all day at the hospital consulting specialists: Next week, at 21 weeks gestation, we will be terminating my girlfriend's pregnancy due to our son's hydrocephalus being so severe he has a sub-40% chance of surviving to term, to experience a life which the doctors described using the term vegetable more than once. So, you know, that sure fuckin sucks.

Thankfully we live in a state where Trump and his party aren't legally forcing us to carry this pregnancy out to the bitter end. I've always voted Democrat even though my personal politics lean a good deal left of their platform and you can bet your rear end I will be doing so again in November.

Ataxerxes
Dec 2, 2011

What is a soldier but a miserable pile of eaten cats and strange language?

Arrath posted:

Appropos to last page's election discussion and this being raw since we spent all day at the hospital consulting specialists: Next week, at 21 weeks gestation, we will be terminating my girlfriend's pregnancy due to our son's hydrocephalus being so severe he has a sub-40% chance of surviving to term, to experience a life which the doctors described using the term vegetable more than once. So, you know, that sure fuckin sucks.

Thankfully we live in a state where Trump and his party aren't legally forcing us to carry this pregnancy out to the bitter end. I've always voted Democrat even though my personal politics lean a good deal left of their platform and you can bet your rear end I will be doing so again in November.

My condolences.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Arrath posted:

Appropos to last page's election discussion and this being raw since we spent all day at the hospital consulting specialists: Next week, at 21 weeks gestation, we will be terminating my girlfriend's pregnancy due to our son's hydrocephalus being so severe he has a sub-40% chance of surviving to term, to experience a life which the doctors described using the term vegetable more than once. So, you know, that sure fuckin sucks.

Thankfully we live in a state where Trump and his party aren't legally forcing us to carry this pregnancy out to the bitter end. I've always voted Democrat even though my personal politics lean a good deal left of their platform and you can bet your rear end I will be doing so again in November.

I'm sorry. I had multiple miscarriages last year, and I wouldn't wish that kind of pain on anyone. Feel free to drop me a line if you need.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1786343737741766682?t=455XuI7hrS4BfXY2Po55IA&s=19

Darn those pesky facts.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Menendez looking in on this thinking Cuellar is a real amateur for laundering the money instead of outright accepting it in gold

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1786457430353756394?t=Splso1cNG_AJvzKQj8S2JQ&s=19

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
Huh, still not nearly as high as it should be but at least he got a respectably high six figures for selling out the government. Reading about bribes of ten thousand or something just blows my mind. Rookie mistakes made taking it directly though. The "campaign donation" and Super PAC poo poo is so effective I don't get why anyone takes the risk.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


facialimpediment posted:

Menendez looking in on this thinking Cuellar is a real amateur for laundering the money instead of outright accepting it in gold

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1786457430353756394?t=Splso1cNG_AJvzKQj8S2JQ&s=19

Lol this is the same pro life dipshit that Pelosi and Hoyer were stumping for (vs a pro choice progressive younger latina woman) on the day the Roe v Wade arguments leaked. Get hosed.

Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006

Arrath posted:

Appropos to last page's election discussion and this being raw since we spent all day at the hospital consulting specialists: Next week, at 21 weeks gestation, we will be terminating my girlfriend's pregnancy due to our son's hydrocephalus being so severe he has a sub-40% chance of surviving to term, to experience a life which the doctors described using the term vegetable more than once. So, you know, that sure fuckin sucks.

Thankfully we live in a state where Trump and his party aren't legally forcing us to carry this pregnancy out to the bitter end. I've always voted Democrat even though my personal politics lean a good deal left of their platform and you can bet your rear end I will be doing so again in November.

Sorry for your loss. My wife and I lost two pregnancies, one in the second trimester. I’ll echo Two Fingers, if you need to talk I’m another person willing to listen.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Thanks everyone :shobon:

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

windshipper posted:

JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US was a loving common chant in a specific moment of pro-Trump voters, and yet… how did we get here?

Fascists believe in ethno homelands. “Jews will not replace us” and “Israelis should genocide/enslave the Palestinians, over there” are not mutually conflicting.

LtCol J. Krusinski
May 7, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Arrath posted:

Appropos to last page's election discussion and this being raw since we spent all day at the hospital consulting specialists: Next week, at 21 weeks gestation, we will be terminating my girlfriend's pregnancy due to our son's hydrocephalus being so severe he has a sub-40% chance of surviving to term, to experience a life which the doctors described using the term vegetable more than once. So, you know, that sure fuckin sucks.

Thankfully we live in a state where Trump and his party aren't legally forcing us to carry this pregnancy out to the bitter end. I've always voted Democrat even though my personal politics lean a good deal left of their platform and you can bet your rear end I will be doing so again in November.

I’m so sorry my friend.

I know words can’t take away your pain, but just know we care for you and love you like a brother in arms.

I’m one PM away if you ever want to talk.

-Shim

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Soul Dentist posted:

Speaking as a Kentuckian, he didn't do anything good for Kentucky that didn't specifically enrich him or his family more either

Mitch is the platonic ideal of a self centered loving ghoul/turtle, sustains himself on spite, and has almost single-handedly completely hosed this country. I hope his grave ends up as an eternally full piss-puddle. And I will gladly contribute.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Elviscat posted:

Mitch is the platonic ideal of a self centered loving ghoul/turtle, sustains himself on spite, and has almost single-handedly completely hosed this country. I hope his grave ends up as an eternally full piss-puddle. And I will gladly contribute.

:hmmyes:

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



Elviscat posted:

Mitch is the platonic ideal of a self centered loving ghoul/turtle, sustains himself on spite, and has almost single-handedly completely hosed this country. I hope his grave ends up as an eternally full piss-puddle. And I will gladly contribute.

It is rather astonishing, in a history book perspective, the moments of power he found himself in during the Obama years. Mitch McConnell will get to be one of the very few of us who had a choice. Who indisputably got agency.

He got to singularly sabotage so many and so much and empower the lunatics, all as a crude tool to benefit his tribe and his own wealth. He is the one who organised the supreme court and the revolt against reform

Steezo
Jun 16, 2003
Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!


ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

It is rather astonishing, in a history book perspective, the moments of power he found himself in during the Obama years. Mitch McConnell will get to be one of the very few of us who had a choice. Who indisputably got agency.

He got to singularly sabotage so many and so much and empower the lunatics, all as a crude tool to benefit his tribe and his own wealth. He is the one who organised the supreme court and the revolt against reform

You know if you subscribe to the strict form of Catholic doctrine that's espoused in Dante's divine comedy his soul has been occupying a hole in hell for at least a decade while his body is piloted by a demon who hates all of humanity because he the worst kind of sinner, an unrepentant betrayer.

Maybe the times he's frozen its been because he passed a holy symbol is all I'm suggesting.

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!
I read the worst political article of all time.

I am only posting the lead.

You will never, in a million years, guess the two sentences following this excerpt.

quote:

I first started reading the Dune novels in my teens. The amazing works by Frank Herbert had the most profound effect of any work of fiction on my nascent, developing brain.

The stories are epic. The far-distant future universe he created is strange and wonderful. The characters are deep and tortured. Somehow, like Tolkien before him, Mr. Herbert masterfully weaves in profound commentary on political philosophy and current affairs of the 1960s, when the first novels were written.

Even a young teen like myself, who was easy to hop into the stories as I was about Paul Atreides’ age), could see the parallels between the Dune spice and Middle East oil and between the Atreides-Harkonnen age-old conflict and the US-USSR animosity.

Like all great fiction, the settings of the novel give Mr. Herbert free rein to comment on the frailty of the post-Cold War Order.

Here is but one of innumerable examples of the political wisdom of Mr. Herbert (from Children of Dune):

Good government never depends upon laws, but upon the personal qualities of those who govern. The machinery of government is always subordinate to the will of those who administer that machinery. The most important element of government, therefore, is the method of choosing leaders.


One of the major events in the first Dune novel (and the brilliant adaptation – though a bit slow – by Denis Villeneuve in 2021) centers on the test of the gom jabbar. The main character – Paul Atreides (who we later learn is the product of a millennia-long breeding program to create a superhuman able to see the future) – is extremely powerful and thus dangerous; he must be tested. The test involves placing his hand into a machine which creates ever increasing amounts of pain. At the same time, a deadly poisoned needle – the gom jabbar – is placed at his neck. If he removes his hand to avoid the pain, he will be killed instantly by the poisoned needle.

The test determines if the subject is human. Most animals would naw their leg off to avoid the pain of a trap, and a human who can not control his deepest impulses would do the same. In order for Paul to prove he is human and capable of denying current pleasure or pain for future positives, he must submit to tremendous amounts of pain. This is what it means to be a well-adjusted human being in this world, and Paul Atreides (with his tremendous potential for power) must be shown to be such a thing, or he can not be allowed to continue in the world.

Here is Mr. Herbert once again, explaining the concept another way (from Dune):

The Fremen were supreme in that quality the ancients called “spannungsbogen” — which is the self-imposed delay between desire for a thing and the act of reaching out to grasp that thing.

How many politicians in today’s Washington would be able to pass a less lethal version of the gom jabbar test? How many of them would be willing to accept suffering and defeat in their political careers in order to protect vitally important tenets of our Republic for the future of the country?

https://www.tampafp.com/weller-the-woman-who-may-have-saved-the-republic/

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Goes to show no matter how loathsome you are, everybody's got fans. I think I might have more respect for hillary obsessives

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

GD_American posted:

I read the worst political article of all time.

I am only posting the lead.

You will never, in a million years, guess the two sentences following this excerpt.

https://www.tampafp.com/weller-the-woman-who-may-have-saved-the-republic/

Can confirm, would never have guessed

:laffo:

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

GD_American posted:

I read the worst political article of all time.

I am only posting the lead.

You will never, in a million years, guess the two sentences following this excerpt.

https://www.tampafp.com/weller-the-woman-who-may-have-saved-the-republic/

If we’re just saying random poo poo related to Dune about Sinema, she probably looks up to the political cunning displayed by the Corrino sisters.

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009
Senators are processed in the thigh pads

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



I did not know krysten sinema read dune, must be a recent development. The totally-not-her-or-manchin saying it isn't convinced me

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

GD_American posted:

I read the worst political article of all time.

I am only posting the lead.

You will never, in a million years, guess the two sentences following this excerpt.

https://www.tampafp.com/weller-the-woman-who-may-have-saved-the-republic/

I clicked, saw the picture, and said "gently caress" out loud

Arrath posted:

Appropos to last page's election discussion and this being raw since we spent all day at the hospital consulting specialists: Next week, at 21 weeks gestation, we will be terminating my girlfriend's pregnancy due to our son's hydrocephalus being so severe he has a sub-40% chance of surviving to term, to experience a life which the doctors described using the term vegetable more than once. So, you know, that sure fuckin sucks.

Thankfully we live in a state where Trump and his party aren't legally forcing us to carry this pregnancy out to the bitter end. I've always voted Democrat even though my personal politics lean a good deal left of their platform and you can bet your rear end I will be doing so again in November.

I'm sorry. We had 2, both first trimester, and I can't imagine how much worse this is. Conservative folks say having a baby will make you anti-abortion but honestly everything we went through just solidified how unqualified anyone is to judge anyone else's decisions.

MonkeyFit
May 13, 2009
That's gotta be one of the dumbest things I've read in a while. Sinema ran as a democrat, got elected as one, and then proceeded to vote against the things her voters wanted. Which, surprise, happened to align with a lot of stuff the democrats wanted. Our options in 2018 were her or Martha McSally, so we definitely chose the lesser of two evils, but it was still pretty bad. Here's to hoping Gallego wins the senate seat against Kari Lake. I'm hoping it will be easy given how much Lake has been flip-flopping on the 1864 abortion ban, but I'm worried a lot of voters will forget by the time the election rolls around, since we just repealed it.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

GD_American posted:

I read the worst political article of all time.

I am only posting the lead.

You will never, in a million years, guess the two sentences following this excerpt.

https://www.tampafp.com/weller-the-woman-who-may-have-saved-the-republic/

I am very upset that the comments post box doesn't work

The very, very overdue Butlerian Jihad would have spared me from having to read this

Steezo
Jun 16, 2003
Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!


Duzzy Funlop posted:

Can confirm, would never have guessed

:laffo:

I was suspicious but now I firmly believe this person hasn't read any of the novels. They completely missed any of the points Herbert makes about power structures attracting the corruptable and the dangers of zealotry and rampant capitalist control by the spice guilds.. The iduot who wrote that article looked up a few terns and maybe watched a scene from one of the movies.

It'd be like someone claiming to have read Heinlen and saying space sex is gross and genocide is cool.

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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Discussion Quorum posted:

I clicked, saw the picture, and said "gently caress" out loud

:same:

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