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YggdrasilTM
Nov 7, 2011

50% of this year movies has sexual content? FIFTY?! What the hell! How?! Why?!

YggdrasilTM fucked around with this message at 11:40 on May 3, 2024

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Grendels Dad posted:

It's not about full frontal nudity, it's about nobody in movies or involved with movies seems to be horny anymore.

I'm just reminded of the scene in Monkey Man where the guy takes his shirt off while training, to whistles and cheers from the women present.

I've also said, I think it might be in part that Hollywood's mostly boomer ideas of sex and nudity have gotten so gross and called out as such enough that they gave up and stopped bothering rather than try to figure out how to portray sexuality without grossing people out.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

YggdrasilTM posted:

50% of this year movies has sexual content? FIFTY?! What the hell! How?! Why?!

Further proof that comic book movies are in decline

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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this is a good one, everybody actually watch this one

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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It’s really because of me too, zoomers and porn.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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There's a lot less sex and human contact generally IRL too

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Gripweed posted:

There's a lot less sex and human contact generally IRL too

*fiddles around with his wedding ring*

Yeah... yeah

YggdrasilTM
Nov 7, 2011

As I grow old, I'm honestly less and less interested in sex.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

YggdrasilTM posted:

As I grow old, I'm honestly less and less interested in sex.

hosed up

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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It's probably a lot of complicated factors but it's still really funny and jarring to go back to an 80s/90s blockbuster like Top Gun or Risky Business or the Thomas Crown Affair (lol) and at the 65% mark there is ALWAYS a sex break. Complete with montage music that you can tell will go on the soundtrack just so

Movies still follow formulas and patterns of a sort but it's wild how slavish it used to be

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

YggdrasilTM posted:

50% of this year movies has sexual content? FIFTY?! What the hell! How?! Why?!

It depends on how that’s defined. A kiss could qualify, for instance (don’t know if it does, but it might).

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


therattle posted:

It depends on how that’s defined. A kiss could qualify, for instance (don’t know if it does, but it might).

How about eating Churros?

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
Nobody’s reading the full article because it’s behind a paywall but it goes on to state that nudity in movies has gone up while sexual content has gone down. It’s an extension of the Everyone is Beautiful and No One is Horny mindset.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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People want to enjoy hot people but not have time taken away from the film so they can bone.

Jay Rust
Sep 27, 2011

Sex scenes are really expensive to make. All that CGI

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010

CelticPredator posted:

People want to enjoy hot people but not have time taken away from the film so they can bone.

How is a sex scene “taking time away” from a movie?

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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you know exactly how

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

The bit where he’s pretending to be Dickie on the phone to Marge and she gets mad and says “I slept with Tom” and he has to stifle a laugh is easily my favorite Tom Ripley moment on film. Great movie.

The ending drags it down a bit. It does thread the needle with making Ripley somewhat likeable better than Talented did. Mostly by making Greenleaf a huge rear end in a top hat and him and his set even more idly rich than later adaptations. The scene with him and Dickie playing cards while discussing Tom's potential murder and assumption of Dickie's life was excellent as was the signature copying scene. Delon shows the work put into the mimicry better than Damon did. His Ripley always felt a bit wunderkind.

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010

CelticPredator posted:

you know exactly how

No, I don’t, come on dude. How is a sex scene “taking time away” from a film but a gruesome kill or a big fight scene or even a song and dance isn’t?

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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For every The Terminator there’s a The Room

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Any time a movie spends depicting any form of physical intimacy could be better spent on deep lore and world building.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Gaius Marius posted:

The ending drags it down a bit. It does thread the needle with making Ripley somewhat likeable better than Talented did. Mostly by making Greenleaf a huge rear end in a top hat and him and his set even more idly rich than later adaptations. The scene with him and Dickie playing cards while discussing Tom's potential murder and assumption of Dickie's life was excellent as was the signature copying scene. Delon shows the work put into the mimicry better than Damon did. His Ripley always felt a bit wunderkind.

Damon's Ripley seemed like such a mope that I had a hard time seeing why Dickie would find him fun to spend time with. Delon's threaded that needle much better.

think my Ripley ranking goes Delon > Malkovich > Hopper > Damon (although my actual ranking of the movies is probably The American Friend > Purple Noon > Ripley's Game > The Talented Mr. Ripley)

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010

CelticPredator posted:

For every The Terminator there’s a The Room

One movie had a bad sex scene so nobody's allowed to do it?

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Pirate Jet posted:

No, I don’t, come on dude. How is a sex scene “taking time away” from a film but a gruesome kill or a big fight scene or even a song and dance isn’t?
No you come on dude lol

It just depends on what the film is trying to do. Since films have a very finite amount of time, I can see why why using any of that time for sex when it doesn’t really need it can be frustrating.

I love Predator 2 and that film has a exploration feel to it so that’s probably the reason for the sex scene, but aside from that it’s really pointless. Not that it bothers me much. But ya know. People seem hella sensitive to sex these days.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

CelticPredator posted:

No you come on dude lol

It just depends on what the film is trying to do. Since films have a very finite amount of time, I can see why why using any of that time for sex when it doesn’t really need it can be frustrating.

I love Predator 2 and that film has a exploration feel to it so that’s probably the reason for the sex scene, but aside from that it’s really pointless. Not that it bothers me much. But ya know. People seem hella sensitive to sex these days.

not gonna lie i don't really get this either

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Pirate Jet posted:

One movie had a bad sex scene so nobody's allowed to do it?

Why do you need more sex scenes? I don’t care either way but it’s a thing that’s bothering a lot of people lately and they seem to find it useless and a waste of time to show.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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From the start I didn’t say me I said people. I don’t fully get why people are so weird about sex scenes these days. They say it’s boring pointless, makes them uncomfortable, they watch in front of their families ect. It’s all wonk.

Do whatever you want filmmakers imo

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

Pirate Jet posted:

No, I don’t, come on dude. How is a sex scene “taking time away” from a film but a gruesome kill or a big fight scene or even a song and dance isn’t?

The things is, all of these things are often overindulgent time wasters in movies. Big fight scenes and musical numbers are often especially egregious offenders, but I'd also put a lot of gratuitous sex scenes in that same category. Just like checking out of a blockbuster when a fight scene goes on and on without conveying something new, an unnecessary sex scene can do the same.

Of course, when done well they're also all powerful emotional cinematic tools. There's nothing inherently wrong with a sex scene, but there were a ton of movies in previous decades, especially the 80s and 90s, where the story more or less gets put on pause for a boring softcore porn break.

I definitely want movies to be hornier, but having a sex scene doesn't necessarily make a movie horny if that scene feels rote and forced.

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Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

here's the thing though: all movies are a waste of time, so complaining about a movie wasting time just means you aren't really about that movie enjoying life

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
Because sex is part of life, any art that's honest about humanity is going to include it, and the continued elimination of sexual content in the arts mostly serves right-wing puritanical values aided by a misguided notion that Hollywood has "lost the right" to sexual content post-MeToo - which, again, isn't even being served because as the article states, there's more nudity than ever but no actual sex, so it's not like actresses stopped getting exploited. We're not even talking about specifically sex scenes here, we're talking sexual content - an entire aspect of human life being shut out of the plots and characterization of movies because at some point somebody watched a movie with their dad.

feedmyleg posted:

Of course, when done well they're also all powerful emotional cinematic tools. There's nothing inherently wrong with a sex scene, but there were a ton of movies in previous decades, especially the 80s and 90s, where the story more or less gets put on pause for a boring softcore porn break.

Name some.

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CelticPredator posted:

Why do you need more sex scenes? I don’t care either way but it’s a thing that’s bothering a lot of people lately and they seem to find it useless and a waste of time to show.

Why do we need scenes at all? Don’t even make movies anymore just go straight to making the YouTube videos explaining the movies you were going to make. Cut out the middle man and stop wasting everyone’s time.

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Oct 11, 2013
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Gripweed posted:

Why do we need scenes at all? Don’t even make movies anymore just go straight to making the YouTube videos explaining the movies you were going to make. Cut out the middle man and stop wasting everyone’s time.

Honestly, you’re not too far off from how some of these people seem to feel lol

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Back when The Room was starting to reach the ironic audience a friend of mine tried to show a bunch people at school it on a school computer. He wasn't very articulate so he couldn't really explain what the movie was without showing clips

He downloaded the entire movie and was trying to find one of the iconic scenes but no matter where he jumped on the timeline he landed on sex scene. One girl eventually asked "why are you showing us porno?" and then everyone dispersed very awkwardly.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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FreudianSlippers posted:

Back when The Room was starting to reach the ironic audience a friend of mine tried to show a bunch people at school it on a school computer. He wasn't very articulate so he couldn't really explain what the movie was without showing clips

He downloaded the entire movie and was trying to find one of the iconic scenes but no matter where he jumped on the timeline he landed on sex scene. One girl eventually asked "why are you showing us porno?" and then everyone dispersed very awkwardly.

ha ha what a story

Coaaab
Aug 6, 2006

Wish I was there...

Pirate Jet posted:

One movie had a bad sex scene so nobody's allowed to do it?
is there an audience for skinemax-style movies anymore or has the demand for hardcore pornography overwhelmed it?

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
As someone who often deals with censorship demands from various countries - sexual stuff gets censored by governments all the time. Violence does not.

There are certain countries that will literally cut out if people are kissing.

Kiss and cursing get cut.

Someone getting cut in half with a battleaxe does not get touched.

I would venture to guess that has an influence on things.

YggdrasilTM
Nov 7, 2011

Pirate Jet posted:

Because sex is part of life, any art that's honest about humanity is going to include it

This is, honestly, false. I have nothing against sex scenes in movies, but you are making an idiotic generalization. You can 100% have art that's "honest about humanity" including no sex at all.

CatstropheWaitress
Nov 26, 2017

Mordiceius posted:

As someone who often deals with censorship demands from various countries - sexual stuff gets censored by governments all the time. Violence does not.

There are certain countries that will literally cut out if people are kissing.

Kiss and cursing get cut.

Someone getting cut in half with a battleaxe does not get touched.

I would venture to guess that has an influence on things.

This is particularly funny in big Indian productions where the protagonists are SO IN LOVE, a love that burns unfathomably hot and passionately, yet if they kiss at all it's like a gentle peck.

Those same movies will just have old people getting punched in the face and surprising amounts of blood.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

The first time I saw The Room I also had to ask if it was the least sexy porn ever made lmao

It just keeps going.

Grendels Dad posted:

It's not about full frontal nudity, it's about nobody in movies or involved with movies seems to be horny anymore.

I don't mind

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Jay Rust
Sep 27, 2011

Yeah my own pet theory is that it really is the shifting economic reality that the international market for american movies used to be mostly europe but now is mostly asia, which is generally more culturally conservative than our french and british friends

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