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Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Cao Ni Ma posted:

I gotta say I really hate the lack of a catchup mechanic for leveling characters in this game. Even when you have a good event like this conquest it can feel like you cannot progress because even the easiest stages cant be cleared consistently

Conquest difficulty scales with your team and expeditions are the catch-up mechanic. We rarely have events where 1 person* can carry 4 dead weight to catch them up but 2-3 decent characters should consistently clear/carry weak characters in some of these stages. The slow stat gain rate kinda sucks but the autorun function helps a lot. Sure those 50 ticket-free fights won't put someone from expedition stats to the current cap but they'll cover a lot of ground.


* GLEX Red excluded, because sticking him in a +50% AGI position in a formation like rainbow rangers lets him dodge tank 99% of fights while slow but surely killing everything.

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Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.

Evil Fluffy posted:

Conquest difficulty scales with your team and expeditions are the catch-up mechanic. We rarely have events where 1 person* can carry 4 dead weight to catch them up but 2-3 decent characters should consistently clear/carry weak characters in some of these stages. The slow stat gain rate kinda sucks but the autorun function helps a lot. Sure those 50 ticket-free fights won't put someone from expedition stats to the current cap but they'll cover a lot of ground.


* GLEX Red excluded, because sticking him in a +50% AGI position in a formation like rainbow rangers lets him dodge tank 99% of fights while slow but surely killing everything.

For what it's worth, Rei and maybe Fuse can enable easy Eastern Woods 2 clears this round - it's two monsters, both of whom are weak to ID and confuse (usually). I've been dumping Rei in a party with four newbies and doing ok.

Nephrite
Aug 18, 2006
Lipstick Apathy
If you have Darque or Claudia's styles they should be able to do the same. Maybe Albert too? Not sure how reliable his Instant Death is on those.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.
For all the hype I've seen about Deathbert he's been pretty terrible from my experience. Low int and low int modifiers means your IKs aren't hitting too often, if at all.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



I got darque and I'm explicitly trying to level him to do the IK dance. You need to have insane int to be able to do guarantee it and I just dont have the stats or gear to do it yet.

Gyoru
Jul 13, 2004



mazewood claudia has an easier time because she has access to Liz's upgraded SS Water/INT bow

deathbert (meaning platinum albert with udx albert's death aoe skill inherit + polka's SS Fire/INT sword) is more for aoe IK farming in story, stone caves, or events
single target IK specialists like claudia, darque, death, rei will dominate in conquests

D1Sergo
May 5, 2006

Be sure to take a 15-minute break every hour.

Evil Fluffy posted:

For all the hype I've seen about Deathbert he's been pretty terrible from my experience. Low int and low int modifiers means your IKs aren't hitting too often, if at all.

His int is too low by himself but if you throw the Mayor in there he should have an easier time. But yeah, Darque can do it solo.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



My darque got like +40 int running tigers with my blunt team so now I can guarantee unconscious in the hell mountain 3 stage with the help of one of my rocs. Luckly enough she needs grinding so its not a wasted spot. Its significantly faster than grinding the boss stage for me.

nearly killed em!
Aug 5, 2011

just started playing a few days ago, having fun. what should i pull on with all these free gems i got?

D1Sergo
May 5, 2006

Be sure to take a 15-minute break every hour.
Some resources:

Reddit link: https://www.reddit.com/r/SaGa_ReuniverSe/
Discord Link (from the Reddit page): https://discord.gg/sagawiki

If you want to min-max your starting rolls, consider getting help with Re-rolls.


Otherwise, your top options are in the Reprint banner:

These two are very strong long-term investments for difficult content:
[Victory Celebration] Final Empress (damage immunity skill)
[Pumpkin] Princess White Rose (stacking WIL buffs)

Otherwise, [Banquet] Final Emperor is a strong AoE attacker for farming so he's good if you get him.

Past that, its going to come down to damage types, and whether you have them or not. Blue is a very strong sun/heat nuker, New Years Empress is a flexible boss fighter. The other characters on both banners are all functional.


The trick is to be careful with your gems: Try not to pull unless you can go all the way to 15k medals for the guaranteed pity (45k free gems), and/or there are multiple good characters on the banner. You can and WILL get screwed at some point. Never spend gems on the Platinum banner.

D1Sergo fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Feb 4, 2022

nearly killed em!
Aug 5, 2011

well i pulled final empress and princess white rose. here we go!

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.
If we get a reprint banner with GLEX Red you'll 100% want to get him because he's completely broken.

Gyoru
Jul 13, 2004



GLEX banner is up next and has been datamined

Claudia
https://rsrsdb.com/styles/1000210601

Undine
https://rsrsdb.com/styles/1000233001

Annie
https://rsrsdb.com/styles/1000311801

gotta catch them all, all the clauds/dines

Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.
that uh sure is a design for undine.

Really like Annie but I don't think I like her enough to pull her after my wallet got savaged by NY/LNY.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Been a couple banners where I got nothing, and since I keep rolling I can't pity lol.

I still have a bunch of really good units so it's no biggie.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Leraika posted:

that uh sure is a design for undine.

Really like Annie but I don't think I like her enough to pull her after my wallet got savaged by NY/LNY.

Calling it now: Annie is going to be GLEX Red tier.


Every other turn is a guaranteed AGI(or STR) boost and every turn having a chance to give her a large boost to STR+AGI so it'll probably average out similar to Red spamming his S1. Annie's AGI boost might not sit as high as Red's but it'll get high enough and she'll have a slightly better base AGI than Red: 100% +17 vs 99% +15.

Undine seems neat and Claudia looks decent too but I think Annie's going to be the big winner on the banner.

Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Feb 7, 2022

Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.

Evil Fluffy posted:

Calling it now: Annie is going to be GLEX Red tier.


Every other turn is a guaranteed AGI(or STR) boost and every turn having a chance to give her a large boost to STR+AGI so it'll probably average out similar to Red spamming his S1. Annie's AGI boost might not sit as high as Red's but it'll get high enough and she'll have a slightly better base AGI than Red: 100% +17 vs 99% +15.

Undine seems neat and Claudia looks decent too but I think Annie's going to be the big winner on the banner.

The big thing differentiating them is that Annie doesn't also get a damage boost from agi boosting and Red does.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Leraika posted:

The big thing differentiating them is that Annie doesn't also get a damage boost from agi boosting and Red does.

No but she gets a damage boost from STR boosting, which she does as much as she boosts her AGI (alternating guaranteed boosts and two sources of RNG-based STR+AGI).

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


Oh, there's a thread for this game, but no one's posted in a year and half. Is the game dead and/or going to EoS? Or is it just not that exciting to talk about these days? I just learned about the game recently, so knowing if it's worth jumping in or not would be great.

Gyoru
Jul 13, 2004



Saoshyant posted:

Oh, there's a thread for this game, but no one's posted in a year and half. Is the game dead and/or going to EoS? Or is it just not that exciting to talk about these days? I just learned about the game recently, so knowing if it's worth jumping in or not would be great.

I quit about a year ago, but the JP server is still doing very well to the point where it is propping up the Asia and Global servers. Reuniverse is funding the SaGa resurgence at SQE as well as Kawazu (creator of SaGa) currently being the most tenured person

I don't see end of service being a thing for a long time because of those two factors

Gyoru fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Sep 27, 2023

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.
I think most chatter for this game (which isn't too much to be fair) has been in the main SaGa thread rather than here.

Arzaac
Jan 2, 2020


I just stopped playing because this game is really drat grindy by gacha game standards.

They give you all the stamina you could ever need but that's in service of you levelling up characters by turning on autobattle and putting your phone down for hours at a time.

LIMBO KING
May 3, 2006

Saoshyant posted:

I just learned about the game recently, so knowing if it's worth jumping in or not would be great.

I still play it because I love SaGa beyond reason but I don't recommend it. The story is pretty meh and gameplay wise it's pretty much a glorified screensaver. They also decided they wanted Global to catch up to JP so it's on an accelerated schedule that sucks rear end, just constant back to back double banners and events to grind without any breaks. On the banners themselves you have a chance of pulling outdated offbanners and combine that with the low gem income = :rip: (Pity is 45k gems)

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


Arzaac posted:

I just stopped playing because this game is really drat grindy by gacha game standards.

They give you all the stamina you could ever need but that's in service of you levelling up characters by turning on autobattle and putting your phone down for hours at a time.

LIMBO KING posted:

I still play it because I love SaGa beyond reason but I don't recommend it. The story is pretty meh and gameplay wise it's pretty much a glorified screensaver. They also decided they wanted Global to catch up to JP so it's on an accelerated schedule that sucks rear end, just constant back to back double banners and events to grind without any breaks. On the banners themselves you have a chance of pulling outdated offbanners and combine that with the low gem income = :rip: (Pity is 45k gems)

Oh well...

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D1Sergo
May 5, 2006

Be sure to take a 15-minute break every hour.
If you like old-school sprites and backgrounds and spell effects turned up a notch then this game is catnip, every new character is a weird little guy who grows on you even if the plot sucks. But yes you are committing to the fact that the primary gameplay is upgrading dudes and watching the auto-battle. Boss battles are fun but are also basically a roster check.

D1Sergo fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Oct 9, 2023

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