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Torquemada posted:A couple of complaints about Dunc2. everytime there's no jihad on the screen the audience should be asking "where's the jihad?"
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# ? May 4, 2024 22:45 |
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# ? May 18, 2024 17:10 |
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lesser jihad in the last 10 minutes, greater jihad throughout the movie, ezpz
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# ? May 4, 2024 22:47 |
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don't worry, messiah will contain lots of 1) jihad and 2) disillusionment with jihad
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# ? May 4, 2024 23:09 |
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yeah, there's completely-disillusioned fremen proper in messiah
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# ? May 4, 2024 23:20 |
Bijaz, leave!
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# ? May 5, 2024 00:29 |
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Tree Bucket posted:The flame around the emperor's orb ship during the dust storm might also help explain why shields aren't great in deserts. It looks like the shield is trying to block every wind blown dust particle Yes, that's the way shields work. They can block everything . Personal shields are tuned so that air can get to your lungs, but a spaceship (or a fortess-palace) has its own oxygen supply so they just are set to block everything. And even if you reset it to allow air to pass, sand that's moving even a couple of km/h will be stopped.
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# ? May 5, 2024 00:59 |
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Yeah, despite the medieval seeming aesthetics the whole thing is that the Imperium relies on very advanced technology to maintain their status quo, and the other whole thing is that Arrakis is an extremely hostile environment from every angle where much of that technology struggles to function and/or isn't nearly as useful if not an outright liability, thus the Fremen have a massive home turf advantage. They have their own technology that's simple and rugged as a rule. (Especially since thumpers are usually single-use) Some people saw comparisons to Iraq (either time, really) and the royal palace resembling the Green Zone, a fortified centre of fragile control where the only native inhabitants are in servant roles. But none of this is new, of course, imperial adventures turning into clusterfucks in the desert was a centuries-old cliche when Frank Herbert was first writing.
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# ? May 5, 2024 06:16 |
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FMguru posted:If I remember the book correctly, people didn't use shields in the desert because it had the effect of making every sandworm within a couple dozen kilometers make an enraged beeline for it That's used in Children Of Dune where Pauls guide activates a shield to draw a worm onto them (it's shown in the tv version). Tree Bucket posted:The flame around the emperor's orb ship during the dust storm might also help explain why shields aren't great in deserts. It looks like the shield is trying to block every wind blown dust particle In the movie one of the Sardukar says the storm is causing shield issues and that they should return to space.
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# ? May 5, 2024 07:26 |
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Worms are resistant/immune to lasers in the books, at least by the testimony of everyone's favorite dickless worm
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# ? May 5, 2024 11:30 |
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From the current events threadGD_American posted:I read the worst political article of all time.
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# ? May 5, 2024 12:51 |
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quote:I can only think of two, Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin. They faced the gom jabbar and chose the pain. These waterfat city dwellers lmao
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# ? May 5, 2024 12:56 |
At least the author goes out of his way to show that there's no doubt he's missed the point of the books. Saves anyone else the trouble.
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# ? May 5, 2024 13:03 |
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she spans my nungs til i bogen
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# ? May 6, 2024 08:10 |
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Just Another Lurker posted:In the movie one of the Sardukar says the storm is causing shield issues and that they should return to space. Ah, I forgot that bit. Villeneuve Dune is six hours of "underling says correct thing, then gets either ignored or eaten" Soul Dentist posted:From the current events thread Aaggh, that writing style is like wading through custard. Brevity- to speak briefly, and succinctly- is, it has been said, been compared by various luminaries to the very essence- the fundamental essentials- the core spirit- the central character- of that state of rapid mental acuity which the western mind is accustomed to accord the designation of, if i may be so bold, "wit"; and furthermore Bubblyblubber posted:she spans my nungs til i bogen lol
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# ? May 6, 2024 08:27 |
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I'm choosing to pretend this is about Dune.
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# ? May 6, 2024 15:04 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ILoGcSxCAY
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# ? May 7, 2024 00:14 |
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Cooool
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# ? May 7, 2024 00:39 |
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Legit forgot worm grunting was a thing until someone shared that video in another thread. I wonder if it influenced Frank's ideas about the worms being attracted to, essentially, sound.
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# ? May 7, 2024 00:52 |
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Mister Speaker posted:Legit forgot worm grunting was a thing until someone shared that video in another thread. I wonder if it influenced Frank's ideas about the worms being attracted to, essentially, sound. Woodcocks literally walk with rhythm to attract the worm(s). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF3-LvmHM4E
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# ? May 7, 2024 06:24 |
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There’s a horribly gross invasive worm destroying the Northeast right now, and I can attest that I have called Shai Hulud in this manner as a means of defending my garden.
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# ? May 7, 2024 13:06 |
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IIRC the trick is that earthworms interpret the rhythmic thumping as the sound of rain, and come towards the surface so they don't drown in wet dirt.
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# ? May 7, 2024 13:31 |
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Torquemada posted:The Fremen are not jihad-y enough. If I remember the book correctly, they're absolutely religious loonies. The film has religion be optional to Fremen, to the point that Chani and her friends are happy taking the piss out of Stilgar while he's praying: it also portrays them as super insular, and dedicated completely to Arrakis and their vision of it. They don't seem like they're so religious they'd go on a massive crusade to convert the galaxy, anyway. Religion isn't "optional", there are just degrees of orthodoxy. Stilgar is a fundamentalist who believes in the Lisan Al-Gaib. Chani and her friends clearly believe in a coming salvation, it's just a question of whether it's going to come from the outer world or whether it's going to be a Fremen. We're shown a number of times that people have varying degrees of faith in the prophecy (Stilgar, Jamis, the council of elders Stilgar consults with etc.) It's not really clear which Fremen are northern and southern at times, but the fact that Jessica takes the water of life in the North indicates that there are still plenty of very observant people who are into ritualized religion who aren't considered southern fundamentalists. Also the "insularity" is consistent with the book. There are no intimations at any point until the very end that Kynes or any Fremen had ambitions beyond the terraforming project. The jihad was invented as a consequence of Paul's arrival. Torquemada posted:so much better than it's source material they might as well be different properties entirely. I really love both of movies (Dunc 2 in particular) but cmon. Jewmanji fucked around with this message at 16:28 on May 7, 2024 |
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Guess RFK Jr. read children and GEoD and decided to pursue the Golden Path. Turns out the worms need to go on your outside though.
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# ? May 9, 2024 02:34 |
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i spent the money to buy and it was worth it
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# ? May 9, 2024 02:34 |
they were real, and strong, all along
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# ? May 9, 2024 05:20 |
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RFK talks without rhythm so that he won’t attract the worm.
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# ? May 9, 2024 06:13 |
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Platystemon posted:RFK talks without rhythm so that he won’t attract the worm. Lol
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# ? May 9, 2024 08:54 |
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I have a little theory and I wanted to see if there are any takers here: You know how we all make fun of Ix for not knowing that their name is derived from Roman numerals? What if the same thing has happened with CHOAM? It occured to me when I heard someone pronounce it with a Yiddish kha- sound instead of a cha-. It might be a backronym. The whole bits and pieces of different languages leading to a kinda nonsense name for their mercantile empire seems a little implausible, so what if it's a corruption of chaim instead? And the whole thing is a somewhat thinly veiled jewish banker stereotype instead, I suppose.
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# ? May 11, 2024 05:05 |
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there's actual jews in the later books. unlike the zensunni thing they're recognizably just normal jews
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# ? May 11, 2024 05:14 |
Galach is "hybrid Inglo-Slavic," so throwing all European languages in to a blender seems about right, but I agree it's a clumsy name. They should have just kept the long form, NOAMCHOMSKI.
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# ? May 11, 2024 05:16 |
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There's this in the UK as well, which seems fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayQkFgQsQxY
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# ? May 11, 2024 07:35 |
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bob dobbs is dead posted:there's actual jews in the later books. unlike the zensunni thing they're recognizably just normal jews They are slightly weird Jews tbf. The rabbi says God’s name like it ain’t nothin and several times quotes the apostle Paul. Kind of funny
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# ? May 11, 2024 11:34 |
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skasion posted:They are slightly weird Jews tbf. The rabbi says God’s name like it ain’t nothin and several times quotes the apostle Paul. Kind of funny This bitter Herb we read...
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# ? May 11, 2024 11:41 |
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skasion posted:They are slightly weird Jews tbf. The rabbi says God’s name like it ain’t nothin and several times quotes the apostle Paul. Kind of funny +25,000 years of cultural drift, even if they have their own wild reverend mothers... not to mention the Muslim/Buddhist fusion that gave us Fremen to begin with.
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# ? May 11, 2024 12:39 |
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the rabbi never once goes "oy vey, the vorm", very inauthentic jews, do better frank
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# ? May 11, 2024 13:35 |
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Creating a no-room is the exact kind of rules lawyering that pleases Hashem.
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# ? May 11, 2024 14:21 |
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I don't think this ever made it here but I might have missed it https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6MX7whriHq/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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# ? May 11, 2024 14:43 |
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i remember reading about that in the thread in like 2018
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# ? May 11, 2024 14:45 |
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cool story. wish he had told it on any other podcast or medium
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# ? May 11, 2024 16:48 |
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# ? May 18, 2024 17:10 |
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Bubblyblubber posted:the rabbi never once goes "oy vey, the vorm", very inauthentic jews, do better frank Also never hankers for some Chinese.
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