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Sure, but I really want them to know that we know that they were about a hair's breadth from utter annihilation, and that they should not attempt anything that maybe they think they COULD still do. Really get the point that they are only safe because they A) called off their idea to steal Snarls and B) we were much, much more interested in seeing the Good Boy than dealing with their poo poo, which will not always be the case.
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Volmarias posted:Sure, but I really want them to know that we know that they were about a hair's breadth from utter annihilation, and that they should not attempt anything that maybe they think they COULD still do. Really get the point that they are only safe because they A) called off their idea to steal Snarls and B) we were much, much more interested in seeing the Good Boy than dealing with their poo poo, which will not always be the case. There’s no way they don’t already get that. They’d have to be missing significant parts of the brains and eyes not to:
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FoxTerrier posted:I understand people are pissed, but realpolitik should win out here. Save the anger for later and negotiate for grain now instead. Our people need food, not righteous fury. They can’t eat moral superiority. Good thing we can deliver both!
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FoxTerrier posted:There’s no way they don’t already get that. They’d have to be missing significant parts of the brains and eyes not to: It's the donut. And I don't think they understand just how important snarls is to us, instead of "just a really big dog"
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Ironically, these guys might be the only non-Zepathians in Ur who would understand that
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FoxTerrier posted:There’s no way they don’t already get that. They’d have to be missing significant parts of the brains and eyes not to: I'm not convinced of that at all. They don't know that we overheard their plan or anything like that - it's entirely possible that they think they've 'gotten away' with something, and I want them to know that no, we're not the sort of person you can trick or obfuscate your way around. They're not going to try anything big against us again. I want them to know not to try anything small either. And to appreciate just how magnanimous we've apparently been. It could do everyone well for them to realise we're the forgiving sort. Apparently.
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Alright, have it yalls way. Just consider hitting them up for grain in the way out, wouldja? 
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C D E I Is not paying for slaves an option or has gold already exchanged hands? We should take what is ours, especially after learning dog King didn't invite us and it was all a farce to get a new dog slave
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FoxTerrier posted:Alright, have it yalls way. Just consider hitting them up for grain in the way out, wouldja? I mean, I'm not here to kill anybody. They just tried to violate, like, every Urian hospitality custom, and as far as we know, don't know that we know about it. They've been cowed by our ability to take their dogs, but I need them to know how close they came to losing it all. I'd love to be friends and get trade links, but I also need them to understand who we are as a people. E: What i liked about the original option B was that our boys understood the situation rather than us keeping everything a secret. B.B. Rodriguez fucked around with this message at 13:43 on May 1, 2024 |
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On our way out, have all the dogs gather and perform a complex dance that ends with them lining up in the street to spell out something praising El.
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May 1, 2024 13:41
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Can't write his name iirc.
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Glory to the Lord and so forth
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DC gently caress this guy, put him on blast and let know we're the biggest dog in town now.
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Voting remains open but C and D have a pretty commanding lead. For reference they are:Diogines posted:C. Tell the Steward you know he was lying and that Yeledtov didn't invite Snarls and chastise him for lying in his King's name. For C, could you clarify if you want your countrymen to know? Do you care if other people in Zabdi's Court hear? We ask because we need to process how your words may influence others. For D, same question, thanks. There is going to be General Outrage among your people if this is discovered, if the people of Armanum hated them already, woah boy will the Kavodelans be *pissed*. Basically, any cooperation with Zabdi in the future with your people might be scandalous, firebrand Kavodelans might feel less well disposed with Yeledtov and any cooperation with the city is probably going to be off the table as long as their current Steward remains. Diogines fucked around with this message at 22:49 on May 1, 2024 |
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C but keep it low-key, our party can know
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I didn't vote for C or D, but I would say that if we want to go this angle, tell everyone in public so it's most disruptive to the entire city. If the point is to really grind them down and punish as many people as possible, involved or not, making sure that everyone who wasn't in on the plan knows about it will probably do a real number on the cities overall stability.
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We should liberate the king from her perfidious vassals, put some people who appreciate good dogs in charge.
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Zodiac5000 posted:I didn't vote for C or D, but I would say that if we want to go this angle, tell everyone in public so it's most disruptive to the entire city. If the point is to really grind them down and punish as many people as possible, involved or not, making sure that everyone who wasn't in on the plan knows about it will probably do a real number on the cities overall stability. We didn't think we had to explain that, but, yes. If the general public knows that their Steward lied (or was accused of lying) in the King's name and that they were also planning to violate guest rights and steal the Companion of a nearby and Massively Blooded king that may not be great for the stability of the city. You don't actually understand the political situation in Yeledtov well, they are the enemies of Armanum so you hardly have any contacts in their court but it would certainly be good ammunition for anyone opposing the current Steward.
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If it got back to Zepath that they planned to abduct Snarls, how likely is it that people will go to War? Even if we tell them not to? I'm thinking it's pretty likely. We have generations that grew up with snuls rides.
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Swedish Thaumocracy posted:If it got back to Zepath that they planned to abduct Snarls, how likely is it that people will go to War? Even if we tell them not to? The odds that a young firebrand murders the Steward or other Yeledtov noblemen? Also low, but not zero. Snarls is massively popular and much beloved, their plan to abduct him was extremely poorly considered and likely to draw immense outrage among your people.
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Keep it fairly quiet and let the news trickle out slowly over time. We don't need to Chorazin this dude, just scare the poo poo out of him.
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All the dogs in the city better hear about their leader being a dog abductor.
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D - Keep it to ourselves.
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Tell people on an NTK basis only, we can just vaguely tell our party that we have learned potentially troubling information but wish to not spread rumors, so we would rather not say anything. Technically true, which for us is saying a lot!
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Is this Steward well-liked? Was this a desperate play for power or just an attempt to get their dog to be happy? I will go for 'D' privately at first, but if he lies to us in any way, I'd tell all our boys and everyone else as we left the city. Let the townspeople deal with him.
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Speak to him privately. Inform him of the truth of what the reaction would be if we went loud.
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AJ_Impy posted:Speak to him privately. Inform him of the truth of what the reaction would be if we went loud. This, I don't want to cause a huge scene if at all possible so regardless of what combination of these wins I'd like to not destabilize the region violently.
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I'd like the people who are with us, our immediate companions, to know. Not a loud proclamation, but I'd like Urgun and Kore, etc., to know in the same way that they would have if the B vote had gone through properly. At the least it helps cover up our faux pas with the dogs, which I think is important with Kore particularly. If they go spreading the news around, well, that's up to them.
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Theglavwen posted:I'd like the people who are with us, our immediate companions, to know. Not a loud proclamation, but I'd like Urgun and Kore, etc., to know in the same way that they would have if the B vote had gone through properly. At the least it helps cover up our faux pas with the dogs, which I think is important with Kore particularly. voting this
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AJ_Impy posted:Speak to him privately. Inform him of the truth of what the reaction would be if we went loud. Works for me
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Let's do it in private in exchange, he answers our How good of a King are you where we vet his ruling chops like the new king of ahlab or whatever name of that city is. If he doesn't pass muster then we go loud and push the nuclear option. My thinking is if this dude can be trusted to be cool based on our assessment and this kidnap plan was just a lapse in judgement, we can trust that he'll comply with any demands we have that he agrees to and in return he doesn't roll the dice on getting overthrown. Our primary demand should be to get the city to stop raiding its neighbors and not just us to promote regional stability.
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Polgas posted:Let's do it in private in exchange, he answers our How good of a King are you where we vet his ruling chops like the new king of ahlab or whatever name of that city is. If he doesn't pass muster then we go loud and push the nuclear option. Even my crazy rear end thinks this is a bit of a reach. Lots of assumptions (  )But the test idea is pretty cool nonetheless! Personally, I vote that C and D are private. Zabdi and our Allies only.
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Do it in private, as we don't want to make this a bigger deal than it needs to be.
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Voting remains open, but expect the next update this weekend.
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D, private with our guys It's more for our guys than anything else. Especially Kore DCBomB fucked around with this message at 05:58 on May 3, 2024 |
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DCBomB posted:D, private with our guys Yes.
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alpaca diseases posted:And tbf Zepath is no much different—they’re also currently ruled by Steward who’s been Kinging without much regard to what their own very tired BigDog King may or may not want too vOv I maintain that Enkidel is a treasonous usurper and should abdicate as king in favour of the appointment of an actual Regent, via the appropriate processes for such an event. Under normal circumstances, the Regent would still be Enkidel, but as he is a traitor and usurper he should be disqualified and exiled. The fact that this frees him to wander the earth as an adventuring hero is unrelated.
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