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Whybird posted:I'm very new into this - I have a Pi in my living room that I'm using as a media/retro games PC, and I have what feels like a very silly question. BerryBoot or PINN will give you what you want (multiple OS's on one SD card) and is the smarter way  e: use one of those as opposed to swapping out SD cards, it will make your life and the life of your SD card easier  e2: Be aware, you'll have to start from scratch to implement this, but once it's done, it's done, and you can boot into whatever you want from there on out. eightysixed fucked around with this message at 13:46 on May 9, 2024 |
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The real smarter way to do things is to know that retropie is just an application, and a linux desktop is just an application, and you can have both installed on the same OS at the same time. That way you don't have to reboot to switch. Easy: you can install the PIXEL desktop inside of Retropie Harder: you can install Retropie on a standard RaspPi OS, but this will require learning some linux to make it work nicely. Launching retropie requires shutting down the normal desktop first, and vice versa. So some nice user-friendly icons to switch between them need to be some simple scripts to take care of that. (Either way, the more investment you put into a customized Pi setup the more you want to back it up to avoid SD card loss.)
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May 9, 2024 14:00
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Well that's fair, I didn't think about that. But still a bootloader that allows him to boot into whatever, if he decides to expand into other things seems like a good decision too v  v
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May 9, 2024 14:28
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I found it made the Pi way more flexible for my uses to install EmulationStation via apt-get and then have it auto-launch on boot. That way if you want to use it for something else you still have RaspbianOS to fall back to. E: post 2 slow
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May 9, 2024 14:37
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Whybird posted:I'm very new into this - I have a Pi in my living room that I'm using as a media/retro games PC, and I have what feels like a very silly question. The flashable image for RetroPie has the full os installed as well. You can install more applications on the RetroPie image. Are you looking to use it as a desktop? You can also install RetroArch which is closer to a desktop environment with emulators already installed. e;fb
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Whybird posted:I'm very new into this - I have a Pi in my living room that I'm using as a media/retro games PC, and I have what feels like a very silly question. What you outlined is how I would advise somebody starting out. This being Linux, there are 58 other ways you could do it. But I don't think trying to set up that way is a good step 1.
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Klyith posted:The real smarter way to do things is to know that retropie is just an application, and a linux desktop is just an application, and you can have both installed on the same OS at the same time. That way you don't have to reboot to switch. I don't know, I was running Ubuntu on my laptop but I wanted to try KDE so I wiped the disk and installed Kubuntu, then I thought I'd try XFCE so I wiped the disk and installed Xubuntu...
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Pham Nuwen posted:I don't know, I was running Ubuntu on my laptop but I wanted to try KDE so I wiped the disk and installed Kubuntu, then I thought I'd try XFCE so I wiped the disk and installed Xubuntu... Have you considered trying Lubuntu?
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Or Debian?
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Or installing your distribution’s desktop meta package for the desktop environment you’re keen to try, then logging in to that with your display manager? A lot of us have more than one installed, it’s not weird.
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Just switch the SD cards, like you originally planned, OP. Maybe make a third one where you can try the dozen+ suggestions you're getting from this thread. This way when you get in over your head, you can yank it out and put in one that still works.
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May 10, 2024 01:39
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Why bother, just buy more pi
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Hasturtium posted:Or installing your distribution’s desktop meta package for the desktop environment you’re keen to try, then logging in to that with your display manager? A lot of us have more than one installed, it’s not weird. Not pi related, but I’ve tried this and it almost always ends up messing something up or breaking things. It seems like it should be seemless but I find it’s not but maybe I just don’t know how to janitor it correctly or something idk
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cruft posted:This way when you get in over your head, you can yank it out There shall not be any yankin’ itt
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eightysixed posted:There shall not be any yankin’ itt 
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That was really useful advice, thank you all! Retropie installed like a dream, and I'm just reading up on PIXEL now which sounds like what I'm after for desktop stuff.
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Hasturtium posted:Or installing your distribution’s desktop meta package for the desktop environment you’re keen to try, then logging in to that with your display manager? A lot of us have more than one installed, it’s not weird. I was joking about how often I see people talk about doing precisely that when their package manager already has all the poo poo they need. I don't run KDE or GNOME but I usually end up with a good chunk of both suites installed just because I like to pick and choose tools
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Ive got a spare pi4. I want to use it as a bare bones VLC player on my TV for those odd times my TV cant natively play back something via the plex app. a quick google suggests that a pi 4 will struggle on 4k videos but I thought they had hardware decoding for h.264/5?
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Laserface posted:a quick google suggests that a pi 4 will struggle on 4k videos but I thought they had hardware decoding for h.264/5? The h264 decoder can only do 1080p60 (it's using the same block as the earlier pis). The h265 decoder can do 4k. And it doesn't have VP9 decode at all. The CPU just barely too slow to do 4k without acceleration on h264 and vp9. So I guess it depends. I feel like a lot of  in 4k are probably h265 encodes...
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Not that anybody asks, but I spent a good 10 hours figuring out how to get a pi4 to do hardware h264 encoding, and I'm here to tell you that it's not worth it if you're doing Plex. Maybe for, like, trail cameras or something. But the quality is just all over the place, and by the time you dial it in to decent quality, you're not getting very good compression. I gave up and just use the software mechanism in ffmpeg. But if you're interested, hit me up and I'll dig up the invocation to make HW encoding work on a modern kernel.
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cruft posted:Not that anybody asks, but I spent a good 10 hours figuring out how to get a pi4 to do hardware h264 encoding, and I'm here to tell you that it's not worth it if you're doing Plex. Maybe for, like, trail cameras or something. But the quality is just all over the place, and by the time you dial it in to decent quality, you're not getting very good compression. I was asking about playback rather than encoding. just want a really lightweight OS w/ VLC installed for playing back the odd file my TV cant handle natively via plex as my plex server is ancient and cant do transcoding. TV handles 265 fine but some HDR videos the colors are all messed up on my TV but it plays fine on a PC.
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My pi4 wouldn’t do 4k reliably so I stuck the display at 1080p via the boot config. It did ok but I only tested it against full screen streaming sites from the default PiOS.
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Laserface posted:Ive got a spare pi4. The only way to test and use pi for video playback is to use https://libreelec.tv/.
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Pham Nuwen posted:I was joking about how often I see people talk about doing precisely that when their package manager already has all the poo poo they need. I tried pretty much everything, finally landed on Mint + Cinnamon and haven't looked back.
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https://www.londonstockexchange.com/news-article/market-news/expected-intention-to-float/16470316 their IPO announcement thing is up
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Is this the beginning of the end, or is it a good thing? It could go either way...
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Nothing good has ever come from going public except making rich people richer. The pi itself will probably be fine for the forseeable future but they will absolutely have to start monetizing everything surrounding it.
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eightysixed posted:Is this the beginning of the end, or is it a good thing? I'm sure they'll be very successful and stray even further from their original mission to produce low cost devices for students and hobbyists
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Raspberry Pi, a Broadcom company.
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I cannot see what a primarily nonprofit education-oriented company has to gain from entering the world of shareholders wanting line to go up each quarter
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Thanks Ants posted:I cannot see what a primarily nonprofit education-oriented company has to gain from entering the world of shareholders wanting line to go up each quarter The people at the top are thinking about their retirement.
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Thanks Ants posted:I cannot see what a primarily nonprofit education-oriented company has to gain from entering the world of shareholders wanting line to go up each quarter Raspberry Pi Foundation is the nonprofit education-oriented charity, which owns most of Raspberry Pi Ltd. They got the profit made by Ltd to do charity stuff with. Raspberry Pi Ltd, the company being IPO'd, is not a nonprofit education-oriented company. It's run like a business, it makes profit, and has no special mission. I listened to a podcast with Eben Upton as a guest once, and it made clear that these guys are suits who happened to create the Pi while working as university profs. It being tied to a charity was more circumstance than the founders being noble hippies. Selling off Ltd is a good thing for the foundation, because: 1) they're selling high, the market is starved for IPOs right now 2) they can put that pile of money in diversified safe investments rather than being tied to the fate of a single company / product 3) I dunno how much of Ltd they're selling, but surely not all of it. So they'll still have plenty of upside.
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Well, with the adoption of RISC V going higher and the continuing interest in using it in hobbyist situations, I think that there are enough small business and talented hobbyists that would be down to beef up a good implementation. Until then, there’s enough profit in maintaining goodwill that I think raspberry pi will keep maintaining their current and legacy platforms. Besides, due to how much demand there is, they are quite happy with churning out good product at the current prices. Makes for a good prototype board!
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sb hermit posted:they are quite happy with churning out good product at the current prices. Makes for a good prototype board! Can’t wait for them to start doing that…
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