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Tenebrais posted:There's an interesting twist possible that if Redcloak does disappoint The Dark One enough to stop receiving spells, that also prevents Thor's solution from working, since there would no longer be a ninth-level spell slot in purple. There's also a possibility that TDO stops giving Redcloak spells because they learn of Thor's plan. They might prefer oblivion for all to ever accepting aid or cooperation from the old guard in the long-term.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Dunno if there are special rules for Fallen Clerics, but presumably he could get them back if he managed to atone. Or, he could just convert to a follower of Dark Two
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Nenonen posted:Or, he could just convert to a follower of Dark Two Oh lord, is it possible Redcloak has enough goblin followers thanks to Gobbotopia that he could become a God alongside TDO?
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Randalor posted:Oh lord, is it possible Redcloak has enough goblin followers thanks to Gobbotopia that he could become a God alongside TDO? I doubt it - he's specifically and openly TDO's priest, so any belief in him is going to be belief in the god he represents.
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Tenebrais posted:I doubt it - he's specifically and openly TDO's priest, so any belief in him is going to be belief in the god he represents. How would a sectarian rift a la Sunnis and Shias work in this framework? They all believe in one God, and his great prophet, but then there's deep division about the role of the prophet's son in law and khalif. What I'm trying to say is that we just need a very expensive team of rules lawyers for Mr. Redcloak...
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You'd probably need someone else to claim that they are the true High Priest of The Dark One. Could probably make a credible case if they're both getting spells, regardless of who's holding the mantle. That'd split the religion but I can't imagine it raising any new gods. For that you'd need a more secular figure doing great deeds under their own power, that the Dark One's followers also start believing in. Or for TDO to deliberately elevate someone himself, if he has enough juice for it.
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Tenebrais posted:I doubt it - he's specifically and openly TDO's priest, so any belief in him is going to be belief in the god he represents. Multiple forgotten realms deities have that exact backstory though.
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Yeah I feel like there could definitely be a Small Gods situation where (Small Gods byTerry Pratchett spoilers i guess) the Church of Om had all the faith but no one (except Brudda) actually believed in Om the god so he was almost completely powerless
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Tenebrais posted:I doubt it - he's specifically and openly TDO's priest, so any belief in him is going to be belief in the god he represents. But would it, though? I mean, Redcloak's actually achievement in making a proper city for goblin-kind and the downtrodden monsters wasn't part of his priest duties. I guess the question is does belief in Redcloak-the-politician count as belief in Redcloak-the-priest-of-TDO.
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