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Mao Zedong Thot posted:yeah that's right im a silver medallion kind of a big deal hello, Flying Orchid
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I think there's room for "fun" in safety videos, but there should be a requirement to show or explain the evacuation process in a way that's strictly informative and practical.
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May 16, 2024 18:25
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Bring back Deltalina.
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May 16, 2024 18:46
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Look, all I'm saying is if my life is potentially reliant on other passengers 'getting' the safety briefing, I want it to be clear and concise and unmistakable. You can't make a video that grabs the attention of every person, but using metaphors can absolutely be a problem for some people in processing the information and I'm not referring to intelligence. Yes, they can just read the seat back information instead. That's fine. Perhaps I'm a little salty thinking about all the resources that went into producing fluff like for that for "branding" when the airlines nickel and dime passengers for everything.
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May 16, 2024 19:11
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i don't think it's too much of an ask to show how an evacuation works on an actual airplane instead of some tropical dream world. if you want to make the video fun or whatever outside of that, go nuts.
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May 16, 2024 19:25
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I am sure that the Delta safety video cost up to an incremental cent per flight for Delta's 190 million passengers
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Having a flashback to Tyler Durden narrating emergency airplane fliers, "as calm as Hindu cows"
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May 16, 2024 19:29
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Hell is other people and resources spent wrong for their sins is a failure of capitalism or communism
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May 16, 2024 19:32
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:the delta videos are good, people pay attention to them more at least The last one I saw was the one with the internet memes and the uncanny valley redhead
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May 16, 2024 20:02
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this is timely https://www.businessinsider.com/united-airlines-safety-video-wont-make-passengers-less-distracted-2024-5 quote:I used to work in airline safety. United's new video has good intentions, but I don't think it will make passengers any less distracted. top of page bullet points are quote:United Airlines' new inflight safety video is creative but also extremely distracting.
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I think cultural stereotypes are a dangerous game, but in regards to the JAL flight: absolutely loving correct. The safety video was presented in a sensible way, and the passengers paid attention to it because they were told to pay attention to it. Then, when an emergency happened, they knew the mission, and evacuated the plane as they had been instructed to do. If that's not "enough" it's because you have a cultural problem you need to sort the gently caress out before you send people in an environment with possible catastrophic risks. AF358 was the same, with one passenger stating that the evacuation was aided by the re-briefing of exit locations during the pre-landing passenger brief. This stuff matters, it's inappropriate to ignore briefings even if you are a very experienced passenger or -- to wit -- a pilot! You complete the briefings every time, and you pay attention to them, so the pertinent information is in your short term memory, I don't care if you've already done it five times that same day. PT6A fucked around with this message at 20:53 on May 16, 2024 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I am sure that the Delta safety video cost up to an incremental cent per flight for Delta's 190 million passengers The Delta videos have clearly been some sort of a personal project for the CEO for quite some time now. Phanatic posted:Bring back Deltalina. They used that video for too long. A certain type of frequent fliers apparently started getting really weird whenever she worked a flight. My problem with the US safety videos is that they don’t actually show how slides work unlike JAL.
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hobbesmaster posted:
Which seems like a pretty goddamn key piece of information to give to untrained passengers operating under duress.
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May 16, 2024 21:15
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Currently spending time with FiFi and her maintenance crew getting her ready for show season. Excellent way to spend a rainy, lovely, Texas Thursday. (I was here for a range day event but the idea of slogging around the Waxhatchie Texas mud amidst heavy rain and lightning without rain gear and boots holding guns made out of metal under a metal roof didn't strike me as wise, so this made a nice consolation prize) Also, I found a loose screw in #1's engine intake so I got to kinda-sorta help preflight FiFi! 
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Is there a published statistic of how likely you are to survive if the oxygen masks drop from the ceiling on a commercial flight
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Hadlock posted:Is there a published statistic of how likely you are to survive if the oxygen masks drop from the ceiling on a commercial flight 100%, near enough.
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hobbesmaster posted:My problem with the US safety videos is that they don’t actually show how slides work unlike JAL. I feel like that's lacking in the pamphlet pictograms too 1: pull handle 2: slide down slide I feel there's gotta be some intermediary steps in there.
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May 16, 2024 22:45
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I like to think I'm a fairly mellow guy in most ways but I swear to god, if I'm ever on a emergency evac and someone is blocking the way due to insisting to bring their carry-on backpack and suitcase with them, I will lose my poo poo.
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May 16, 2024 23:49
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slidebite posted:I like to think I'm a fairly mellow guy in most ways but I swear to god, if I'm ever on a emergency evac and someone is blocking the way due to insisting to bring their carry-on backpack and suitcase with them, I will lose my poo poo. Relax, we're about due for another novel attempted in-cabin attack and this time they'll use it as an excuse to ban carryons for good.
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Hadlock posted:Is there a published statistic of how likely you are to survive if the oxygen masks drop from the ceiling on a commercial flight Fatalities happen when the *pilots* don't go on oxygen quickly enough.
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PT6A posted:If that's not "enough" it's because you have a cultural problem you need to sort the gently caress out before you send people in an environment with possible catastrophic risks. How to make a good safety video in two easy steps: Step 1: Unfuck entire country Step 2: Record safety video
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Midjack posted:Relax, we're about due for another novel attempted in-cabin attack and this time they'll use it as an excuse to ban carryons for good. Looking forward to flying economy in a hospital smock and those disposable to flops the nail place gives my wife, with my cell phone and wedding ring in a locked pouch like they have at concert halls
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Hadlock posted:Is there a published statistic of how likely you are to survive if the oxygen masks drop from the ceiling on a commercial flight I have survived 100% of the times it has happened to me, which is twice. Not super fun.
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May 17, 2024 00:56
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If avherald is to be believed then there is an in-flight single engine shutdown or pressurization failure somewhere in the world every few days or so. Not exactly the good kind of excitement, but as emergencies go they are fairly routine and require significant additional compounding factors to result in injuries or fatalities.
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Elviscat posted:I feel like that's lacking in the pamphlet pictograms too The only safety presentation I remember is the time I sat in an exit row of a Delta 744 (I think it may have even still had some northwest markings at the time). I have no idea if this was the written procedure, but the FA seated at the door said that she would operate the door, however if she was incapacitated you will need to move my body out of the jump seat by releasing the 5 point harness, fold up the jumpseat, operate the door, wait for the slide to fully inflate and do not let any suitcases or shoes on the slide because we are over 3 stories above the ground. It feels like an exaggeration, but she really explicitly used the word incapacitated and “my body”. I don’t recall the exact words but she was communicating that we were multiple stories off the ground and you can die without that slide. It’s I think the only time I’ve ever heard a flight crew member truly emphasize to a passenger that flying is a potentially deadly business.
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They should split screen the inflight safety briefing with subway surfers footage.
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Elviscat posted:I feel like that's lacking in the pamphlet pictograms too I grab the exit-row seats whenever possible because I a a 6'1" widebody. There are detailed instructions on how to remove / open the door and push the slide cartridge in place, it arms & fires itself after (it's three steps total, I think) I love when they ask of I am physically able to operate the door because holy poo poo if we're on fire that door is coming off no problem. hobbesmaster posted:The only safety presentation I remember is the time I sat in an exit row of a Delta 744 (I think it may have even still had some northwest markings at the time). I have no idea if this was the written procedure, but the FA seated at the door said that she would operate the door, however if she was incapacitated you will need to move my body out of the jump seat by releasing the 5 point harness, fold up the jumpseat, operate the door, wait for the slide to fully inflate and do not let any suitcases or shoes on the slide because we are over 3 stories above the ground. Yeah there's a pause there, after the thing is armed you gotta wait. I will have no problem clearing a lane once my wife goes down first.
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So did we come to a conclusion on whether or not I need to throw hands with Sully?
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Sully is Mike Rowe level bad at worst, not Bart Sibrel bad.
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Eh, Mike's org gave my brother a full ride to a very nice trade college thing so he gets a pass in my book.
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Warbird posted:Eh, Mike's org gave my brother a full ride to a very nice trade college thing so he gets a pass in my book. To be fair, if Sully gave me a full ride into the Hudson River, I’d be singing him praises.
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Platystemon posted:To be fair, if Sully gave me a full ride into the Hudson River, I’d be singing him praises. Is that what they call it these days?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqYqFvEUaZs You know what helicopters need? More blades!
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That's what happens when all the good ideas are patented
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Air Canada’s current safety video includes a Longview cowboy pulling a safety procedures card out of his saddlebag to examine it while driving the herd. That being said, when the plane is struggling with wind and the flight attendant asks everyone to quickly review the safety card before final… yeah I read it. Also, sitting directly above the landing gear in a CRJ is scary because you can feel it smack into the bottom of your feet on retraction. Extension is somehow worse!
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I was looking into flying to Montreal for a concert in October and actually biased United because they use Embraer 175s over Air Canada's CRJs.
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Jonny Nox posted:Air Canada’s current safety video includes a Longview cowboy pulling a safety procedures card out of his saddlebag to examine it while driving the herd. On the DC-9-50 (and maybe MD-83/88?) if you sit around there you get here an extremely loud sound similar to dogs barking (hydraulic pump) and smell a strong scent of burning rubber.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I was looking into flying to Montreal for a concert in October and actually biased United because they use Embraer 175s over Air Canada's CRJs. I booked an Air Canada flight that was code-shared (is that the right term?) with a United flight. I don't know precisely what I was flying on but the United flight was utterly bare. No inflight entertainment (not that I use them) and the seats were thinly padded and downright uncomfortable. Not that I've been on one but I thought I was on a Spirit flight. At least it was a fairly short flight from Newark to Toronto but I wouldn't do it again despite the lower ticket price. United and Air Canada also fly out of different terminals at Newark so that could have ended badly for me but at least I knew something was up when I couldn't check in online on Air Canada's site. Edward IV fucked around with this message at 00:43 on May 19, 2024 |
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Edward IV posted:I booked an Air Canada flight that was code-shared (is that the right term?) with a United flight. I don't know precisely what I was flying on but the United flight was utterly bare. No inflight entertainment (not that I use them) and the seats were thinly padded and downright uncomfortable. Not that I've been on one but I thought I was on a Spirit flight. At least it was a fairly short flight from Newark to Toronto but I wouldn't do it again despite the lower ticket price. United and Air Canada also fly out of different terminals at Newark so that could have ended badly for me but at least I knew something was up when I couldn't check in online on Air Canada's site. CRJ? I thought all of United’s mainline had IFE, even if it’s pretty old. For example the old directTV system on their now 20+ year old 737 NGs aren’t bad.
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hobbesmaster posted:On the DC-9-50 (and maybe MD-83/88?) if you sit around there you get here an extremely loud sound similar to dogs barking (hydraulic pump) and smell a strong scent of burning rubber. It's the smaller Airbuses that sound like something is seriously mechanically wrong whenever they switch hydraulic modes, right?
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