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I ride bikes all day
Sep 10, 2007

I shitposted in the same thread for 2 years and all I got was this red text av. Ask me about my autism!



College Slice
I’m between jobs, with 27 years in IT. I’ve worked every PC related job from Computer Janitor to Helpdesk to System/Database/Network Engineer & Administrator. I hate coding with a passion and it’s been the 2nd most impactful factor in my career. It’s like purposely trying to talk wrong. Perfectly.

My buddy suggested that I take my ability to translate complex subjects into simple explanations would make me good as an AI Prompt Engineer. However, on SA it seems to be the butt of a joke. What am I missing here?

Anyone have a better idea?

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Thuryl
Mar 14, 2007

My postillion has been struck by lightning.
I mean, the short answer is nobody is going to give you a job just writing prompts for AIs, or at least not one that pays decently. Do a search for "Prompt Engineer" or "AI Engineer" postings on your preferred job search site: there aren't actually that many of them, and the ones that are there generally require a data science background, which means you are not going to be able to escape from coding.

You are also likely to be out of a job if it turns out everyone saying AI is a bubble is right and it pops, so that's a consideration.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
You should take out a (preferably large) loan to survive on while pursuing your dreams as a prompt engineer, it will definitely go really well and you'll pay back the loan in no time with your expert prompt writing skills, which are in high demand because of all the people who call themselves prompt engineers (it indicates a booming market). You can do it OP, and please report back with your amazing success so we can live vicariously through you!

Edit: seriously tho no one actually wants to pay someone to write a prompt. If they're so keen on LLMs they'd just ask chatGPT to write the prompt for them. It's a fictitious job that people named to make themselves seem more legitimate, like calling yourself a "dream engineer" when you just like trying to set up your friends on bad blind dates.

I ride bikes all day
Sep 10, 2007

I shitposted in the same thread for 2 years and all I got was this red text av. Ask me about my autism!



College Slice
Fair enough, thanks for not being complete assholes.

Quick Stop
May 12, 2001

D'flecting d'fensive ends and d'bilitating injuries
Have you considered something developer adjacent like Technical Program Manager? The ability to learn, deal with ambiguity, explain things clearly so that teams can align around them, etc are key skills for the role.

I was a developer for 10 years, and while I didn't hate coding it was never a pleasure or passion for me like it is for many others. Which meant that I naturally took on a lot of responsibilities for organizing the team, etc. A couple of years ago I switched to a TPM role which I'm much better at than I ever was as a developer because it lets me leverage the other skills I acquired without coding being the main focus of the job.

tildes
Nov 16, 2018
https://spectrum.ieee.org/prompt-engineering-is-dead

Seemed relevant to the question -- it does seem like this will be a thing, but it will involve a lot of coding still

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках
It was never alive. 'Prompt Engineer' is something assholes tried to make into a prestige title because they got roundly laughed out of the room claiming they were artists for writing half-rear end google search terms to feed an LLM.

Canine Blues Arooo
Jan 7, 2008

when you think about it...i'm the first girl you ever spent the night with

Grimey Drawer
Isn't a thing. Won't be a thing.

This is something AI tech bros made up to convince themselves and others that AI is totally going to be able to do magic that it really really can't

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

I ride bikes all day posted:

I’m between jobs, with 27 years in IT. I’ve worked every PC related job from Computer Janitor to Helpdesk to System/Database/Network Engineer & Administrator. I hate coding with a passion and it’s been the 2nd most impactful factor in my career. It’s like purposely trying to talk wrong. Perfectly.

My buddy suggested that I take my ability to translate complex subjects into simple explanations would make me good as an AI Prompt Engineer. However, on SA it seems to be the butt of a joke. What am I missing here?

Anyone have a better idea?
You would be better off working technical sales or some sort of managerial role. Good communicators are sorely needed in tech.

You don't particularly need to be able to translte complex subject into simple explainations for talking to chatGPT*: you need it to talk to -humans-.

The way you become a "prompt engineer" is simply by using chatGPT within the responsibilities of an existing job

like nobody hires for "prompt engineering" because the skillset is pretty different for using A.I for different things

like I at my job have used chatGPT to generate boilerPlate code/configs, but I would have no clue wtf to do is someone ask me to generate an art piece, I do it and it looks off/requires editing

Typo fucked around with this message at 21:01 on May 10, 2024

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Canine Blues Arooo posted:



This is something AI tech bros made up to convince themselves and others that AI is totally going to be able to do magic that it really really can't

the current obessession with prompting reminds me of that sci-fi story where there's a library containing books which contains every possible permutation of all English letters, and people would go mad trying to find the one book that tells you the ultimate truth to the universe

like people are convinced if they just come up with the exact right phrase magic will happen

quote:

Isn't a thing. Won't be a thing.
It will lol

for the exact same reason why bitcoins are a thing

just because it's dumb doesn't mean people with money won't throw money at it

Typo fucked around with this message at 21:03 on May 10, 2024

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1780368652451365100

istewart
Apr 13, 2005

Still contemplating why I didn't register here under a clever pseudonym


Only natural that he would be this confused. After all, he's only working from second-hand data

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

i think the main reason is because someone might ask what you do for a living and then you'll say "i'm a prompt engineer" and things will quite likely go downhill from there

kazmeyer
Jul 26, 2001

'Cause we're the good guys.

Earwicker posted:

i think the main reason is because someone might ask what you do for a living and then you'll say "i'm a prompt engineer" and things will quite likely go downhill from there

If you ever say "I'm a prompt engineer" and your next sentence isn't "no poo poo I'm really fast" what the gently caress are you really doing?"

Canine Blues Arooo
Jan 7, 2008

when you think about it...i'm the first girl you ever spent the night with

Grimey Drawer

Typo posted:

the current obessession with prompting reminds me of that sci-fi story where there's a library containing books which contains every possible permutation of all English letters, and people would go mad trying to find the one book that tells you the ultimate truth to the universe

like people are convinced if they just come up with the exact right phrase magic will happen

It will lol

for the exact same reason why bitcoins are a thing

just because it's dumb doesn't mean people with money won't throw money at it

Bitcoin exists because it's a convenient way to:

• Launder a shitload of money
• Buy drugs
• Transact for Illegal poo poo

And it's also become a techbro means of 'store of wealth', but that is not the reason it is where it is today. Bitcoin is the logistics network of the black market and it's techbro-adjacency is not the driving force for it's value.

If 'prompt engineering' shows up anywhere, at all, as a real paid position - I'm going to guess it's somewhere in the porn industry, and it's probably also going to be part of a skillset that includes baking loras, models, etc. As a role in any other business - no chance at all.

MyronMulch
Nov 12, 2006

I don't know, I think it's important to be on time

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PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan



lol

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